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Rise for Freedom #3: How to Talk With People You Might Disagree With

This video is mostly practicing, so you get to fast-forward a lot. If the topic interests you, you may want to check out braverangels.org, which is the organization the speakers are from.


The Zoom meeting to discuss will be on May 21, 2025 at 7pm

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Meeting ID: 636 423 8921

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Here is a link to some Braver Angels materials from the Minnesota chapter's website.


Link to the meeting video: https://youtu.be/SomlZmsO3i0

0.8.19 Agenda, welcome, and overview

0.16.15 SAVE Act update

0.20.45 May Day Mobilizing

0.28.00 Outreach training

0.33.20 Quick review of Pillars of Support

0.35.15 Dr. Beth Malow and Dr. Doug Teschner, both from Braver Angels

1.03.03.  Return from break

1.24.30  Back from Break

 

Executive Summary:

  • Kaden Quimet introduced the "Rise for Freedom" training series, focusing on nonpartisan efforts to protect democracy. This session, led by Dr. Beth Malow and Dr. Doug Teschner from Braver Angels, taught techniques for respectful communication across political differences.

  • Key upcoming events: May Day National Mobilization on May 1st with 23 actions across the country, and a mobilization on April 19th organized by Women's March. Justin reported on the SAVE Act passing the House, urging continued action to block it in the Senate.

  • Main takeaways: Find common ground and shared humanity, practice active listening, avoid demonization, and use "I" statements in political discussions. Participants were encouraged to apply these techniques in their outreach efforts and join future training sessions.

Meeting Notes:

Introduction and Overview

  • Kaden Quimet (Kaden Wymie) from Public Citizen welcomed over 560 participants to the Rise for Freedom training call

  • Tonight's topic: How to talk across differences and speak with people you might disagree with

  • Partners for the training series include:

    • Public Citizen

    • Women's March

    • League of Women Voters

    • Declaration for American Democracy Coalition

    • League of Conservation Voters

    • Unitarian Universalists for Social Justice

  • Recap of training series timeline:

    • April 3rd and 10th: Previous trainings

    • April 17th (today): Talking across differences

    • April 24th: Harnessing Our Power to End Political Violence and Repression

    • May 1st: Shifted back a week for May Day International Mobilization

    • May 8th: Mutual aid and structures for local organizing

    • May 15th: De-escalation and advanced strategic organizing skills

  • Ethos of the training series:

    • Big tent approach - progressives through conservatives welcome

    • United in support of democratic republic and stopping Trump's authoritarian power grab

    • Welcoming, love-centered, joy-centered, and connection-focused

    • Continuous outreach and recruitment essential

    • Nonviolence is a core principle

    • Trainings are nonpartisan and C3 compliant

Icebreaker Activity

  • Question: "Think of someone you care about who strongly disagrees with you about something important. What's something you can both agree on?"

  • Key themes that emerged from responses:

    • Family and love for each other

    • Education

    • Respect and civility

    • Human rights and voting rights

    • Friendship

    • Shared concerns about corporate power in politics

Action Items and Upcoming Events

  • May Day National Mobilization on May 1st

    • 23 different actions happening across the country

    • Website with action locations and toolkits available

    • Highlighting issues like wrongful deportations and attacks on immigrant communities

  • Mobilization on Saturday, April 19th

    • Organized by 50-51 and Women's March

    • Focusing on recent attacks on immigrants and concerns about potential expansion to U.S. citizens

SAVE Act Update
  • Justin (Justin Kwasa) from League of Conservation Voters provided an update:

    • SAVE Act passed the House last week

    • Fewer votes in favor compared to last time it was introduced

    • Bill was delayed by almost three months due to constituent pressure

    • Next steps: Thank House members who voted no, urge Senators to block the bill

    • Movement call scheduled for Tuesday at 7:00 PM next week

      • Speakers include Secretaries of State from Maine and Michigan

      • Will discuss federal and state-level "Save Acts" and related issues

May Day Mobilization
  • Jose (José Arnulfo Cabrera) from Chiirla shared details:

    • May 1st actions to uplift undocumented workers and workers' rights

    • 23 different actions planned across multiple states

    • Website available with action locations and messaging toolkits

    • Highlighting cases of wrongful deportations, like Kilmar's story

      • Kilmar wrongfully deported to El Salvador, accused of gang membership without evidence

      • 238 immigrants sent to maximum security prison in El Salvador, 75% without criminal records

      • Senator Van Hollen from Maryland currently in El Salvador investigating

Outreach Tips

  • Med (Medjane) from Corporate Accountability provided key outreach tips:

    • Keep outreach joyful and personal, even in challenging times

    • One-on-one conversations are powerful - listen deeply and connect

    • Make clear and bold asks - be specific about what you're inviting people to do

    • Follow up consistently to show commitment and build trust

    • Celebrate every effort and progress over perfection

  • Poll results on outreach efforts:

    • 30% of participants reached out to at least one person

    • 16% reached out to all five people they committed to

    • Over 30 new attendees joined tonight's training due to outreach efforts

Main Training: Talking Across Differences

  • Trainers introduced:

    • Dr. Beth Malow (Dr. Beth Malo): Neurology physician and science communicator

    • Dr. Doug Teschner (Dr. Doug Teaschner): Former Republican state legislator, Peace Corps Country Director

    • Both affiliated with Braver Angels, focusing on reducing partisan polarization

    • Co-authors of the book "Beyond the Politics of Contempt: Practical Steps to Build Positive Relationships in Divided Times"

  • Context for the training:

    • Importance of inclusive political diversity to preserve democratic republic

    • Need for respectful, kind, and gracious communication across differences

  • Key concepts presented:

    • How framing and language impact political discussions

    • Importance of going "high" when others go "low" in political discourse

    • Techniques for reframing negative statements into more constructive ones

    • Strategies for having respectful conversations with those who disagree

Reframing Exercise
  • Participants shown examples of negative political statements and asked to reframe them positively

  • Examples included:

    • "Republicans couldn't care less, they want our kids to starve" reframed as "One thing that's so special about our state is that we take care of each other. We all deserve to have enough to eat, regardless of income level, race, or ethnicity."

    • "Republicans hate women" reframed as "I worked hard all my life. I bet you did too. When you work hard, you want to be paid fairly for your work, and that's why I think women should get equal pay."

  • Participants practiced reframing in small groups or individually for 5 minutes

Conversation Practice
  • Techniques for respectful political conversations:

    • Connect on common interests

    • Listen actively and show you've heard the other person

    • Acknowledge what was said, even if you disagree

    • Ask follow-up questions to go deeper

    • Be mindful of tone and body language

    • Use "I" statements and personal experiences

    • Avoid stereotypes and labels

  • Role-play exercise:

    • Participants paired up for 12-minute practice sessions (6 minutes each)

    • One person described someone they struggle to talk with, the other role-played that individual

    • Practiced listening, speaking, and de-escalating tense conversations

    • Trainers demonstrated a sample role-play about police funding and community safety

Key Takeaways

  • Importance of finding shared humanity and common ground

  • Effectiveness of active listening and "sacred listening"

  • Recognition that democracy is about having differences of opinion, but avoiding demonization

  • Value of asking for permission to speak in discussions

  • Importance of being "soft" when talking to people who don't agree

  • Benefit of finding ways to talk to people who disagree to learn something new

  • Understanding that vulnerability (e.g., using "I think" statements) can be appropriate in tense discussions

Next Steps

  • Next training session scheduled for April 24th: "Harnessing Our Power to End Political Violence and Repression"

  • Participants encouraged to continue outreach efforts and apply conversation techniques learned

  • Recording, slides, and resources to be shared via email the following day

  • Participants invited to join the National mobilization on Saturday, April 19th

  • Encouraged to follow togethernow.substack.com for more content on the themes discussed

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